Comments on Fire Emblem 12 Translation [HoS]: Base conversation progress 2

Hi, I'm able to help with english dialogue and...

2011-11-08T17:45:31.184-05:00

Hi, I'm able to help with english dialogue and colloquials. I love fire emblem and would be happy to help with grammatical errors and the like.
Email is lori.fausak@gmail.com

Still haven't received that email...

2011-11-07T16:25:41.559-05:00

Still haven't received that email...

so much trouble because of one name... if it was m...

2011-11-07T14:08:40.860-05:00

so much trouble because of one name... if it was me translating the game i would put all the characters with stupid names just to be annoying

Sigh, I give up. I'm done commenting on anythi...

2011-11-07T13:47:31.776-05:00

Sigh, I give up. I'm done commenting on anything anymore until the next blog post. Have a great day guys. *huge sigh*

^Maji and Saji would like to have a word with you,...

2011-11-07T11:40:04.630-05:00

^Maji and Saji would like to have a word with you, sir.

@Blazer: How are American names relevant to Fire E...

2011-11-07T09:41:02.503-05:00

@Blazer: How are American names relevant to Fire Emblem at all? Fire Emblem isn't set in America, at all. I mean, it's not like Sanaki or Micaiah are actual American names, but so what?

That's the point of my remark (languages other than English exist). Because double i's might happen in other languages, and I don't see the point in 'americanizing' the names. And Shiida isn't a silly localization, because it's the name the Japanese version uses.

I mean, I don't really mind if you use Sheeda or Caeda or whatever, I'm going to enjoy the translation either way. I admit I'm just nitpicking, and really, you guys are the ones doing all the work, so I don't really have a say on this. I just wanted to state my opinion :)

^Aye

2011-11-07T00:32:48.806-05:00

^Aye

I don't get why there's even any discussio...

2011-11-06T21:14:40.445-05:00

I don't get why there's even any discussion on how names are translated though. It doesn't really affect gameplay at all. At least with me, when I see a name translated oddly (in my opinion), all I do is think "Oh well, I'm sure they had a good reason for using that translation". As long as you don't change Marth in to Fred-Bob or something silly, it's all good.

Are you still looking for someone to help proofrea...

2011-11-06T20:20:00.859-05:00

Are you still looking for someone to help proofread? If so, I would be more than happy to help out. I had been studying to be an English major in college, so I do know a bit about the English language. My email is: Invader_Pyro@yahoo.com

@Cristina no, more like See-da @Anonymous I meant...

2011-11-06T19:44:08.786-05:00

@Cristina no, more like See-da

@Anonymous I meant between Sheeda and Caeda, sorry for the confusion. And it's rare a literal romanji transliteration is ever a good choice for the name of a character, yes the first character is "Shi" followed by the character that extends the vowel sound of the previous character and then "da" thus Shi-i-da i.e. Shiida but the most realistic name is Sheeda given that, as I said a billion times, double i's are very awkward and not normal and if you used a double 'i' in a name in America everyone would think you're an idiot. Trust me, people mock me for making the stupidest mistakes, if you did something like that they'd act like you were a felon.

And what's the point in saying "languages other than English exist"? I feel like I'm missing something, haven't we only been talking about English and Japanese, mostly/with emphasis on the former?

and you're welcome

and I don't even know why I'm defending Shiida, it's not like it matters what kind of silly localizations the European dudes made when we're using NoA's localization for FE11 names anyhow... ._.

@Pandorakun Wait, it's not pronounced "K...

2011-11-06T18:29:50.454-05:00

@Pandorakun

Wait, it's not pronounced "Kay-da"...?

@Anonymous

Agreed. :D

@Blazer: No way Sheeda is more true to the Japanes...

2011-11-06T14:22:04.778-05:00

@Blazer: No way Sheeda is more true to the Japanese. The best romanization for シーダ is Shiida, not Sheeda (and definitely not Caeda). Also, languages other than English exist.

That aside, I love what you guys are doing, and as a fan of FE I'm grateful that you're working so hard on this :) Keep up the good work!

I'm still waiting for that email...

2011-11-06T13:39:58.011-05:00

I'm still waiting for that email...

@Anonymous Actually, I like Caeda... So I'm n...

2011-11-06T11:29:03.692-05:00

@Anonymous

Actually, I like Caeda... So I'm not going to cringe at it. That's why I was asking...

@Blazer Well the reason that English uses ee more ...

2011-11-06T09:45:26.576-05:00

@Blazer Well the reason that English uses ee more than ii is because we pronounce e's like i's. I think we're the only language that does that.

Caeda looks more elegant I guess? Though I keep pr...

2011-11-06T09:01:11.448-05:00

Caeda looks more elegant I guess? Though I keep pronouncing it as Kayda in my head lol.

LOL@Andrew, gahahahahaha... And yes it's Caed...

2011-11-06T08:29:25.459-05:00

LOL@Andrew, gahahahahaha...

And yes it's Caeda, not Sheeda... trust me, I don't like it either... I think Sheeda is the best one, it's the most used, most true to the Japanese, and makes the most sense. DOUBLE i's JUST DON'T HAPPEN, WTFFFFF, THERE'S LITERALLY LESS THAN 60 WORDS THAT USE DOUBLE i's, and a lot of those words are just words that end in 'i' (like ski) added with 'ing' or something. There is at least over 3,800 words with double e's... -_- point made

Oh, I know that language has changed, but it still...

2011-11-06T04:02:38.554-05:00

Oh, I know that language has changed, but it still won't stop me preferring the British vernacular.
Oh, and English isn't rooted in Latin...it had Latin tacked onto it by the Romans. We had Celtic, then Latin was tacked on, then Saxon, then a bit of Norwegian (Vikings), then some French-and-Norwegian (The Normans were technically Vikings, not French) then a little German...we're a conglomeration of almost every major language on the face of the Earth. :D

And ok. I can still translate into American, I'll just have to readjust how I spell things for it. I can still do it, though :D

Oh god no, this is starting to degenerate in to &q...

2011-11-06T03:24:43.584-05:00

Oh god no, this is starting to degenerate in to "correct" character name translations. So... the weather lately..... (back on track, it's good to see so many people willing help out, hopefully their enthusiasm matches their skill (not a criticism)).

@Cristina Actually it's "Caeda" in t...

2011-11-06T02:40:56.753-05:00

@Cristina
Actually it's "Caeda" in the American version, so you're going to cringe every time you see "Caeda" not "Sheeda" hahaha, I also think that Shiida > Sheeda, but Shiida & Sheeda > Caeda, but what can we do?, that isn't a major problem anyway, as soon as the game it's in English... XD

I use American English, so it's all right.

2011-11-06T00:22:59.904-04:00

I use American English, so it's all right.

Inb4^^ Wait, it was Caeda, right?

2011-11-06T00:05:06.034-04:00

Inb4^^

Wait, it was Caeda, right?

I've got absolutely no problem with that. I...

2011-11-06T00:04:15.568-04:00

I've got absolutely no problem with that. I'm just going to cringe every time I see "Sheeda". xDD!

Sorry guys I can't keep up with all the commen...

2011-11-05T23:57:01.940-04:00

Sorry guys I can't keep up with all the comments, too tired and whatnot

however we've come to the conclusion that we're making this an NoA localization, meaning it's a localization, not a localisation... meaning it's "American English" not "British English"

normally that'd be the end of that but I know I won't get away without some reasons so...

1) So far we've used that in text/dialog
2) The names are already taken from the NoA localization
3) Most of the FE fanbase is in N.A.
4) People are less likely to comment about the American spellings than the British spellings
5) Everyone knows I'd throw a fit if it weren't American English spellings so they just gave in without a fight XD (just teasing here)

@Ninjabreadman Thanks for your compliment, it was ...

2011-11-05T22:42:51.711-04:00

@Ninjabreadman
Thanks for your compliment, it was indeed funny and ironic how I wrote that I was good writing English and the phrase itself was wrong haha XD

@Pandorakun
Thanks for your compliment too

@Anonymous Shadow Dragon Fan
I completely agree with you, languages have changed over all the history of mankind, just remember how the English, Spanish, French, Italian and all those languages used to be one single language, Latin, and even now the languages are still changing, and eventually they will become completely new languages, but that doesn't matter for now, what we need right now is the finished translation patch, so good luck to all the members of the team!!! XD