Monday, June 25, 2012

Title screen progress

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Blazer's a bit embarrassed at the moment, so I guess I'll post a bit of new progress. In due time, I'm sure Blazer will surprise everybody with his crazy work.

Thanks to Veperine, we now have a shiny English title screen!

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If you look carefully you might notice some little hiccups, like the registered trademark symbol floating directly over the logo and a slightly dull and sloppy placeholder subtitle, but these are things that will be fixed for the final version.

Anyway, I'm here to ask if anybody has any opinions of what to name the subtitle for this game. The original subtitle "New Mystery of the Emblem ~Heroes of Light and Shadow~" is a bit of a mouthful and won't fit in the game without looking incredibly ugly.

At the moment, it's looking likely that we'll use "(New) Mystery of the Emblem" or "Heroes of Light and Shadow", but if you have any better (or funny) alternatives, feel free to suggest them in the comments!

108 comments:

  1. I think just "Heroes of Light and Shadow" would work. It sounds better than the original, and better than "New Mystery of the Emblem."

    But that's just my opinion.

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    1. Me too.

      FIRE EMBLEM: NEW MYSTERY OF THE EMBLEM is too repetitive to really work imo.

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    2. ...Sorry?

      ANYWAY I thought of a cool reason to go with Heroes of Light and Shadow. Also counts as an AHA~! moment for me, which has been long overdue.
      See, Marth is the Hero of Light because he becomes a legitimate historical figure, while MU is the Hero of Shadow because he remains in the shadows - unknown, unheeded, but hardly unnecessary to the war effort.

      QED.

      Also, I love some of the goofier name suggestions so far haha.

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    3. I would go with Heroes of Light and Shadow.

      New Mystery of the Emblem sounds a bit generetic.

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  2. I personally think "New Mystery of the Emblem" is the best to use, as it also denotes that it is a sequel/remake of another Fire Emblem game and Serenes Forest has the game listed under "New Mystery" so it would help people associate the two easier I feel.

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    1. Vincent owns SF and is also working on this so it shouldn't take much for SF to be updated :P

      I do agree that the denotion of a sequel/remake -is- a good idea, and which is why I insisted the "New" be put in, or else it doesn't feel like a truly remade and improved game (Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem makes me think it's just a port >_> even though I know better).

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    2. I hear that, I personally would want "New" in the title as well for the same reasons you presented. But yeah, while it seems most of us on the site are smart enough to tell which game is which I just though it would be a good idea for others if we used a recognizable name for the game which I felt "New Mystery of the Emblem" was, as others have said below. Perhaps I've just been spending too much time on the GFaqs Awakening forums and have gotten cynical due to the 30 threads a day asking similar questions.

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  3. IT'S SO BEAUTIFUL.

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  4. Fire Emblem, The Emblem of Fire New

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  5. "Light and Shadow", easy, simple and quite catchy.

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  6. I think Heroes of Light and Shadow might be the best option we have here.

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  7. It should be call mystery of blazer or something like that!!!

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  8. Fire Emblem: Return of Vergil

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    1. Fire Vergil: Vergil of Vergil

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  9. Shadow Dragon threw the "sword of light" thing away when translating, so it does make sanse to throw half of the title away.
    So far, I guess what has been suggested is:

    - New Mystery of the Emblem;
    - Heroes of Light and Shadow;
    - Light and Shadow;
    - Mystery of Blazer;
    - Blazing Light and Shadow.

    I kinda feel like HLS sounds better than NME, though I also agree that HLS is still quite long. However, just Light and Shadow lacks meaning, so I guess a nice option to shorten the title would be messing up with the order, making Light and Shadow Heroes. Although that only excludes one single word, it does fit better, in my opinion.

    So, adding my opinion to the list, there goes the updated list:

    - New Mystery of the Emblem (NMotE/NME);
    - Heroes of Light and Shadow (HoLaS/HLS);
    - Light and Shadow (LaS/LS);
    - Mystery of Blazer (MoB/MB);
    - Blazing Light and Shadow (BLaS/BLS);
    - Light and Shadow Heroes (LaSH/LSH).

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    1. I think the last 3... options there can be deleted, no silly ones or implausible (is that even a word? I just made it up...) ones are actually going to be used >_>

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    2. I know, just felt like carrying the honrous/troll mention to you on, man. xD

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  10. Fire Emblem: Marth and Some Guy

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    1. ahahahahah, that's actually a great suggestion, consider there's My Unit in it, rofl

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    2. Just stopped to comment on how much that made me laugh.

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    3. Or girl. Don't forget My Unit can be female as well.

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    4. http://i.imgur.com/NqgtW.png

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    5. TheEnd wins. Goodbye folks.

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    6. ok,i'm sorry blazer,but theend just unchained my heart :3

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    7. "The Prince and I"?

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    8. ""Marth and You""
      ""The Prince and I"


      hahahahahahahaha, my head, it hurts ""XDDDD

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    9. "Marth and Roy"

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  11. Hello, I've been watching the project for some time, and I have done this by the time the final version was made, but I think now is a better time to show it:
    http://i46.tinypic.com/34xkzyu.png
    So, I think that "Fire Emblem New Mystery Of The Emblem, Heroes of Light and Shadow" is best. xD
    Also, if you think that I would be useful with the graphics that may be required I think I can help, if you want.
    And I'm bad writing in english, so tell me if I wrote bad something in the boxart (or here) xD

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    1. that's amazing ^

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    2. While some of the text is iffy, it's pretty good. But hey you did say you're not good at English, shoot me an e-mail at smashfire17 at gmail dot com when you have a chance and when it comes down to it I'd be happy to fix up the text to make an awesome boxart for the game XD.

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  12. looks nice good job!!!!

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  13. Fire Emblem Shin Monshou no Nazo XD

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    1. Um, this is an English translation, not transliteration

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  14. Mystery of the Emblem sounds better, but I would go with Heroes of Light and Shadow since that's how most people know it.

    Also, did you find out anything new about the dangers of playing it on an updated 3ds with a flashcart

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  15. Heroes of Light and Shadow, thats my vote. New Mystery of the Emblem sounds really...clunky :P

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  16. Vincent, was all that crap about me really necessary? XD

    I feel like I'm being trolled by Vincent now xP

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  17. Mystery of the Emblem. (OG and sounds nice)
    Heroes of the new Emblem.
    Heroes of the new Mystery Emblem.
    Heroes of the Emblem Mystery.
    New Heroes of the Emblem. (My Choice)
    New Heroes of the Mystery Emblem.
    New Heroes of the Emblem Mystery.

    I'm giving suggestions, hope they could help you out.

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  18. "Heroes of Light and Shadow" has my vote =D

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  19. Too easy. FIRE EMBLEM, HEROES OF SHADOW.
    without you we could not even read the game.

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    1. From the series "completely ignoring the Altean princess. I mean, prince."

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  20. I'm still cheering for messing up the order, so let's say...

    New Mystery of the Fire Emblem

    Would it be the first not to start with Fire Emblem?

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    1. I like this. If we combine it with the other subtitle we get "New Mystery of the Fire Emblem: Heroes of Light and Shadow" which is still kinda long, but not awkward or redundant. it could be tricky to put text above "Fire Emblem" on title screen, tho.

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  21. Fire Emblem: How Blazer Spent Every Weekend For a Month Instead of Spending Time With His Girlfriend

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  22. Fire Emblem : My First Unit

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  23. Fire Emblem: Lost in Translation

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    1. This is accurate

      Since I don't think many people will get it's supposed to mean "The hero of light and the hero of shadow"

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  24. Some of these suggestions are really bad

    others are freaking hilarious

    keep'm coming XD

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  25. Id Suggest new mystery of the emblem
    or
    heroes of light and shadow

    either way it will be awesome no matter you pick

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  26. Shadow Dragon and Heroes of Light and Shadow = Shadow Saga

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  27. Fire emblem and the furious T-Rex.

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  28. I like "Heroes of Light and Shadow", since the title screen does include two heroes. It would fit better than "New Mystery of the Emblem" in my opinion.

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  29. I'd advocate sticking with "New Mystery of the Emblem". It's almost universally known by that title, and it avoids potential needless confusion regarding its lesser-known second half of the subtitle.

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  30. I'd go with Heroes of Shadow~

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  31. Heroes of Light is good cuz weapons have no weight anymore.

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  32. Definitely Heroes of Light and Shadow, in my opinion.

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  33. Why is there not a poll for this?

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    1. Because we want reasons and we don't know all the possible options yet XP

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  34. Just go with Fire Emblem - Mystery of the Emblem, The Mystery of the Emblem or Book 2 - Mystery of the Emblem.

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  35. Fire Emblem : Marth and his Shadow

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  36. Fire emblem:
    New mystery of my unit the pwnmobile

    But seriously, i vote for heroes of light and shadow.
    It sounds fresh, and compared to the original mystery of the emblem it has a lot of new features.
    Also, new mystery sounds like: same story new graphics.

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  37. You probably have had this question asked before, but how would you apply the english patch for FE12 on a mac?

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    1. The same way you would on windows, you just need to find a patching program that works on mac.

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  38. These days, it seems that Nintendo goes with shorter titles. Things like "Skyward Sword" or "Shadow Dragon" or "Uprising" (the new Kid Icarus) tend to roll off the tongue easier. I think "Heroes of Light and Shadow" will work, but it may be more realistic to go with a shorter title. "Light and Shadow" fits the bill, but it's a bit uninspired.

    Sadly, I don't have any new suggestions. At the moment, I think "Heroes of Light and Shadow" is probably the best option.

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    1. I've got one! "Fire Emblem: War of Heroes."

      It's a little out there, and I doubt it will be used as the final title, but I figured I'd toss it out there anyway.

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    2. This one actually makes sense. I'm impressed.

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    3. War of Heroes implies that both sides are in the right here and that's it's a War *BETWEEN* heroes, not simply WITH heroes.

      Whereas the enemy is clearly a corrupted individual and hardly respected as a Hero in the same manner that Marth is...

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    4. This war, however, is entitled War of the Heroes, if memory serves. That and the "fake" enemy was also a hero of some sort.

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    5. You sure it wasn't the War of Shadows?

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    6. It's called the War of Heroes in Akaneian history because their history remembers that the war's two faces of the conflict were Marth of Altea vs. Hardin of Akaneia, two men known to have been respected by each other as skilled warriors and leaders during the War of Shadows when Marth defeated the Dark Sorcerer Gharnef and the Earth Dragon Medeus. The fact that Gharnef and Medeus pulled the strings in order to kick off the War of Heroes wasn't discovered until later.

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  39. "Heroes of Light and Shadow" seems to be the best choice.

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    1. But on a more serious note: "Fire Emblem: Blazer's Sword".

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  40. Fire emblem: Mystery of the embarrased blazer

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  41. "Fire Emblem: Hero Spectrum"

    no, no, I can't go inventing totally new titles... >_>

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    1. Why not? Half the people here want to name the game after you anyway :P

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    2. as a joke

      because everyone loves making fun of me lol

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    3. I'm not so sure, I'm willing to bet some are pretty serious about it.

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  42. How about just "Heroes of Light" it's short and it kinda plays off how the last remake had the subtitle "Shadow Dragon" (the two being opposites).

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  43. I would like to commend everyone involved! I am very excited to play FE12, no matter what it is named. I am very excited to be able to create my own unit and kick some butt! :)

    I have played FE1-FE4 and FE6-FE11 to completion with all characters alive and to the end. :) So naturally I am excited about another great FE game to play in English! (I began FE5:Thracia 776 yesterday and am terrified since I have heard nothing but how this game is insanely difficult.)

    So, point being: name it whatever you like, I am just excited to play it! :) Thank you again for all your hard work.

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  44. Fire Emblem: Y U NO LOCALIZE IT NoA!?

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  45. Fire Emblem: The Shadow Saga

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  46. My vote goes to seeing the whole name fit onto the title screen somehow, even if it's a mouthful, for the sake of completion. People will refer to it by a shorter name either way, and it'll probably leave less room for argument about it.

    I would suggest against leaving out New Mystery of the Emblem from the title, because "New Mystery" has already caught on in various places to identify the game. The other subtitle decidedly hasn't. IIRC, Scott Adams put it once that if a name for something that isn't named yet takes off and sticks, it's (usually) a keeper.

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  47. ...never mind that wasn't thinking of the Vergil brouhaha when I typed that, but still!

    One other thing, has it been considered to use the Fire Emblem logotext as it appeared in Shadow Dragon? Or is that a tall order?

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  48. Fire Emblem: New Mystery

    Short and sweet, no redundant Emblem, and it goes with the most popular acronym people use, FE:NM.

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  49. I dunno, why not a fusion of the two?

    Like,
    -Heroes of the Emblem
    Or
    -Mystery of Light and Shadow

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  50. The best title that comes to mind is FIRE EMBLEM: HEROES OF TWILIGHT
    1)Its shorter than heroes of light and shadow
    2) Its a mix of light and shadow
    3) (personally) Sounds way cooler

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    1. Twilight. Are you serious?

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    2. Twilight Sparkle!

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  51. I like Heroes of Light and Shadow. I really don't like the name "(New) Mystery of the Emblem", just sounds odd.

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  52. Fire Emblem: The Heroes of Dawn

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    1. Fire Emblem: Radiant Heroes

      lololol

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  53. While Marth is the Lord of the game, isn't my unit the main character of the game? I think a name like 'Fire Emblem: The Untold Saga' would be pretty cool, since my unit's place in the story was "Lost in history".

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  54. The mystery of sirius

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  55. Fire Emblem and the Chamber of Secrets

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  56. I believe that someone had someone had mentioned Heroes of Shadow earlier. I believe this would be a decent title, because the heroes of the previous game, Shadow Dragon, will be in this game. Another reason is because of the name that you have taken in the creation of this project, which coincidentally, is Heroes of Shadow. Although, Blazer, you think everyone is joking about using your name in the title, I've noticed most of them are NOT joking.

    I propose that it be called Fire Emblem's Heroes of Shadow.
    If you would like to take your credit, where credit is due, (which I believe would be almost entirely supported by the fan base of the Fire Emblem players that are following this game:
    Fire Emblem's Heroes of Shadow: Blazer's Redux

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    1. Fire emblem's Heroes of shadow: Marth and Blazer

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  57. Blazer's badass translation job- THE GAME.
    Just skip all this Fire Emblem crap, Blazer's skill is where it's at.
    JK.

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  58. You guys realize I'm not even responsible for most of this right

    Like everyone on a team did a good amount of work towards making this happen, I doubt I'm the only one who has spent all-nighters on this

    If you're going to give credit where it's due then come up with an acronym that includes the first letter of every username of every person who worked on the translation XD

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  59. "Fire Emblem: They who must not be named"

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  60. So, has a definitive title been chosen?

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  61. If you're looking for something shorter than "heroes of light and shadow" (an albeit good title anyway) i think the best ones so far are:

    Heroes of Light (for that epic feel)
    Heroes of Shadow (to match shadow dragon and still be epic)
    Heroes of the Emblem (to incorporate the NMotE title and oh ya, also epic)

    the Marth and Some Guy one made me lolz for days. xD

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