Friday, October 26, 2012

Closing Remarks

Aveyn Knight

Any moment now, the Heroes of Shadow team will be conducting the closed beta test of the translation patch (or not, it looks like I f***ed up the beta. Now you should be glad we had a beta first). I'm not sure if I'll have the chance later, so I'll just give some closing thoughts now.



First and foremost, I'd like to thank everyone on the translation project team for their invaluable assistance and selfless volunteering, and also for sticking with us till the end (even if not everyone was around all the time). In case you don't know what they did:

Blazer did, um, stuff and then quit. There's not much to say about him. I kid. Blazer's done a bunch of very important stuff, not least gather the whole team in the first place. They helped to organise the team and the translation process and also got their hands dirty with hacking and various negotiations.

TheEnd was our veteran translator, who also worked on the Hasha no Tsurugi and other scanlations. They translated just about everything that wasn't the menu, prologue or the main story branch. Yes, that includes the super-lengthy base conversations.

Agro was our rising star translator, somebody who we hadn't heard of before, but they quickly made a name for themself for their reliability and determination. They translated the prologue and main story branch from scratch and did great justice to the Mystery of the Emblem storyline.

Nintenlord is probably the Hero of Shadow you haven't heard much about, in this translation at least. But without their help, this translation would have struggled to get traction, because they coded the super-efficient text editor. I shudder to imagine editing the text manually...

NomadicTrooperGirl ate all the Japanese graphics and spat out English graphics. We've had 2 graphic editors who did some work then disappeared. NTG did one graphic, vanished for ages, then reappeared and did everything. They're also a graphic editor AND graphic hacker-that's two hard jobs in one!

I'm sorry for bunching all you guys together, but you're all important individuals, I swear! I'm talking about Illumio, Martze, Pandorakun and Ryan, our trusty localisation team, who spellchecked, grammar-checked and zapped any zany Engrish lines.

I probably also ought to thank myself. I kind of joined the team initially to provide advice and support, but I ended up doing 90% of the menus and then verifying all the text in the game. I'm also apparently the project lead now... but that's probably in name more than anything.

And, while not Heroes of Shadow, I'd like to thank Nagato, DarkTwilkitri, Arch, Zak, Zaishi, Vi and Snow (sorry if I forgot anyone!) for providing various levels of assistance. In particular, Nagato is one crazy skilled hacker and if not for them, we wouldn't even have lowercase English symbols in the dialogue. Bonkers, right?

Finally, I'd like to thank every Fire Emblem fan who's been keeping up with or anticipating the Fire Emblem 12 translation. Seriously, keep your eyes peeled. The next time I post (I dunno when though...), I can almost guarantee you won't be disappointed!

145 comments:

  1. Great job everyone!

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  2. I really hate every single person on this team but... You're doing God's work, all of you.

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    1. The hell? I suppose the only response warranted by this is "Asshole."
      I could also use "ingrate" or pretty much any swear, I suppose.

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    2. Come on now, let's not fight. I'm sure they meant no harm and it's just an internet comment anyway : P

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    3. "I really hate every single person on this team"? I think harm was intended. But I'll drop it in deference to you, oh great bringer of English.

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    4. As Franklin D Roosevelt once said: "I welcome their hatred."

      XOXO

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    5. now now,respect other's opinion children,not everyone loves blaz..the fire emblem 12 translation team.

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    6. it's ok i am a well hated man it is true

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    7. Aw, is someone jealous no one ever asked for them covered in oil? Don't worry, I'm sure Blazer will share some of his perverts if you want!
      ...Please say you don't.

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    8. Uh... sure, I don't...

      (I really do)

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    9. i must admit that the prospect of internet love and fame is very tempting

      like i am almost as excited as these "perverts" you refer to but obviously they are simply good just individuals who understand many profound things about this internet world

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  3. I appreciate all the time, work, and effort that you, the translation team, put in this project. Thank you :]

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  4. I salute you noble Heroes of Shadow in your effort to thwart the evils that be that didn't translate this work of art. You have mine and the worlds thanks, congrats on a job well done.

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  5. Thank you to everyone who helped make this translation project possible. I just finished another play through of Shadow dragon yesterday and i cant wait to play this!

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  6. Great job guys, you are all awesome! I'm gonna log in soooo many hours of this game. Can't wait for Awakening next year!

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  7. *Clap* *Clap* *Clap* *Clap* *Clap* *Clap* *Clap* *Clap* *Clap* *Clap* *Clap* *Clap* *Clap* *Clap* *Clap* *Clap* *Clap* *Clap* *Clap* *Clap* *Clap* *Clap* *Clap* *Clap* *Clap* *Clap* *Clap* *Clap* *Clap* *Clap* *Clap* *Clap* *Clap* *Clap* *Clap* *Clap* *Clap* *Clap* *Clap* *Clap*

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  8. Yes! Thank you! Thank you thank you thank you! I'm so looking forward to understanding the story. I've already played through the game in japanese so it will be nice to finally know what's going on.

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  9. Thank you all so much! I can't wait to play this to satiate my wait for Awakening and to enjoy the improvements over Shadow Dragon. Will the Downloadable maps and items be included in the patch for us to utilize?

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    1. We'll provide a save file that has them unlocked. It'd be too bothersome to hack them in and some people might want to download them like in the original game... maybe?

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    2. Thank you so much for all of your hard work for the translation guys! My friends and I are dying to try this one out! but about the save file...will that include all base conversations unlocked or is that too much?

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    3. You'll have to get those yourself :P

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  10. I'm so excited for this, I've been following the progress for the longest time. Now we're finally going to get to experience it! Thanks to you all!

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  11. *Slips into an excitement induced coma*

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  12. You guys are amazing!

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  13. So anywhere from a week to a month?

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    1. Hope we don't run into any major issues!

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  14. A team of earthbound angels here to bring hope to our spirits!
    Your mission here will bring many hours of joy and passion to my heart and the hearts of an untold number of fans! Go with Godspeed! Heroes! Of Light! and Shadow!

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  15. Gonna miss our fun little circle of friends.

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  16. NOW LIFE IS COMPLETE :D

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  17. Fantastic work! You guys have done an amazing job putting this whole thing together and, well, thank you very much. :D Since this is the internet and all I can't very well give you a pat on the back or anything so...here's some virtual chocolate chip cookies! :3

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  18. Mind if I ask what you meant when you said

    "(or not, it looks like I f***ed up the beta. Now you should be glad we had a beta first)."

    Will this delay the project a lot? Regardless, I'm glad to hear that you guys are almost done. I've been waiting for this for a long time! Good job to everyone, and on behalf of everyone whose going to download this, we'll never be able to repay you!

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    1. We couldn't get the patch to work yet, haha.

      I'm pretty sure that something that can be fixed during this weekend, though.

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    2. Patching works now.

      Something else doesn't though...

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    3. Is it possible for you guys to play the game?

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    4. Yes, I think we've fixed most of the issues now. There is at least one tester who can't patch the game though. Working on that now!

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  19. Just wanted to pop in from the shadows and say I've been watching this project for a while now, and I'm incredibly impressed by the dedication and hard work of the entire time. Good job, all of you.

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  21. *****INSERT LOUD FANGIRL SCREAM*****

    You're our Heroes of Shadows, guys! Without you many of Us never played the game (you know, those strange japanese symbols are like hell). Thank you!!!!!!

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  22. Amazing!!! y can´t wait :) you are incredible thanks!

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  23. Thanks =)... LONG LIVE FIRE EMBLEM!!!

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  24. And here is my boner!!!!

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    1. I'd lie and say mine wasn't but NAWWWWW!

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  25. I just wish I was rich enough to pay everyone involved a salary for the work and effort they put into the game, despite not wanting or asking for any money at all. Alas I am not but I can at least thank all of your for your effort in bringing us this great game and hope you have very successful futures ahead of you.

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  26. Hnnnnnngggggggggggggg!!!

    Need and want desperately!

    Great work to all of you and we all cannot wait to enjoy this amazing game!

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  27. I remember when this game was announced for Japan. I've waiting so long to play this. Thank you Heroes of Shadow, thank you so much for doing this. You are all amazing for doing this. Finally after 2-3 years of waiting, the end is near.

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  28. Well, it's been fun and I'm going to be really glad when this is all over.

    I found this site in the beginning of August in 2011 and I'm glad to have stuck around for a year (and even got to help as well [and I'm still helping]!)

    Once this is finished, I'm pretty sure we'll have a party on Skype or something... no? Just me...? Alright.

    To the final stretch!

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  29. Been watching you guys sense Feb 2011. I can't wait for the patch to finish. I love you all and thank you so much for your hard work

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  30. Amazing job, looking very forward to the patch!

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  31. I thank you all for all your hard work. You guys are great. I look forward to seeing it for myself in time. ^_^

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  32. You guys ROCK!!! We love you all and we thank you. =)

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  33. Hopefully Intelligent Systems (and Nintendo of America) would applaud your efforts and realize they've made a terrible mistake in not localizing it.

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  34. Thank you all so, so much for making it possible for us to play this game. We love you all!

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  35. Following the blog for a long time now, never posted, checked weekly. Thank you for all your combined efforts on this project and making it happen. Thank you.

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  36. Really good job guys, I salute thee... saluting done... I applaud thee... applauding done, alas there was one thing I *secretly* expected... for Blazer to triumphantly return as *Shin Blazer(tm)* bringing along a wave of superhuman hacking reinforcements and trounce the translation hilariously fast... alas, at least I dreamt it

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    1. Also, just how many members of this team are Falcom fans...?

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    2. too many XDDDD me, Pandora, Martze, TheEnd, Vincent, and NTG all are, I think. don't quote me on that.

      and I actually did have to come out of retirement for a minute to fix an issue with the game that prevented it from being played on flashcarts, lol

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  37. good job, it's really amazing guy everything you do (one more time sorry for my bad english, i'm French)

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  38. Thanks for your work, guys !
    In France too, we are waiting for this english patch :D

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    1. Oh que oui ! :D

      (Translation : hell yeah ! :D)

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  39. Thanks so much, guys! Looking forward to this, I know it's been an ordeal but I'm sure the team did a great job! =D It's a shame, I was disappointed when I found out NoA wasn't localizing it... Now, I can look forward to it, probably done better! =o

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  40. Ladies and lords of the heroes of shadow project, I would like to fervidly thank you for enduring over two years to bring this game to the masses. This game being translated, along with the other games in the series, means I will have beaten pretty much every single Fire Emblem game in english. It brings joy to my heart that people of your calibur exist to bring these games to a Western audience to enjoy and have fun with. Thank you all thrice noble lords and ladies.

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  41. Some where pretty close to estimating the date earlier (in the april Reverse Psychology).

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  42. I can't thank you enough for your hard work on this patch, you are all so awesome! Thanks to you many fans (including me) will finally be able to fully enjoy this game in English!

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  43. I love you guys

    That is all

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  44. Great job, team "Heroes of light and shadow", for giving this game that it should been released outside of japan, a fair justice, I hope Nintendo learned their lesson, hope I can get a chance to play it before Awakening comes to america, cause I'm planning to play it for 2013. Great job, everyone!

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  45. Thank you! This is thanks to each and everyone's hard work. It's been a while, but hey, it's been progressing and now it's almost done!

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  46. I have been watching this since its fruition and am glad to be here to see the end. It's been a long ride and with the coming release of Fire Emblem: Awakening, this will definitely satiate the wait.

    Thank you Heroes of Shadow for your hard work and efforts!

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  47. OMG like thank you and all that but you said shortly
    yet no download release i really do appreciate everything but fuck
    im getting so impatient >.>

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    1. Trust me, if we hadn't decided to betatest this you wouldn't have even been able to get past the 4th line of dialogue (literally).

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    2. I kinda want to know what caused the game to mess up on the fourth line of dialogue.

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    3. I idiotically used an outdated version of a VERY important file, which didn't work for flashcarts. Needless to say, we're using the updated version now and it works.

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    4. you're very welcome for fixing that for you Vincent ^_^

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    5. I LOVE YOU BLAZER

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    6. HAVE MY BABIES BLAZER

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    7. I'M ERECTING A STATUE IN YOUR HONOR BLAZER

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    8. IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN BLAZER

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    9. I'M SACRIFICING GOATS TO APPEASE YOU, BLAZER.

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  48. I literally found this project on the day of the closing post after exploring the "Anyone Can Die" trope page and getting in to the Fire Emblem saga. Even though I'm late, thanks for the hard work. Can't wait to play this game in english!

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  49. Actually if we wait any longer we will be playing Fire emblem awakening the time the patch comes out so....Therefore all your efforts will be in vain:)

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    1. Their efforts would not be in vain.

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    2. I, for one, am planning on playing FE12 before Awakening whether or not the patch is completed by then.

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    3. lol I think TheEnd already guaranteed that it'd be out before Awakening

      hell he'd probably leak it if it didn't come out before 2013 (which it definitely will--and ironically that November date I made up ages ago seems like it might be beaten lol)

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  50. Thanks for all the great work :D

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  51. Once again, you all have my thanks and the only thing I can offer [apart from pokémon advice xD]: help with chemistry. I do know you probably won't ask this, but the offer and my forum profile are still up.

    Although I would like to do more to thank you all.

    Guess I'll miss coming here to check for updates.

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    1. Hey man, I totally got 10/10 for my quiz thanks to you, so you've definitely helped :P

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    2. can you help with materials science? it's pretty related to chemistry XD

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    3. I don't know if I can, but I surely can try. xD

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  52. Thanks to everyone on the team, you may not realize this but you are an inspiration to many of us.

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  53. your work is much appreciated, wish i could thank you guys more properly

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  54. Amazing job, you guys really did it, thanks a lot from heart, you guys are amazing, simply, words can't describe how thankful i am, ¡thanks a lot!

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  55. Hnnnnnnnnngggggggggg!!!
    Need. This. Right. Meow.
    Hurrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.

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  56. I'm happy to see that the release of the patch will come nearly soon...

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  57. I´ve just recently discovered the proyect, but still I´d like to thank you for your hard work.

    >Playing FE Shadow Dragon while waiting for the release.

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    1. don't do this to yourself man
      there's like 10 other better fire emblem games for you to play :(

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    2. Shadow Dragon isn't that bad imo

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    3. i said "better fe games",not that shadow dragon is terrible

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    4. if you had read carefully to what he had said, he stated ''I've just recently discovered the project''
      meaning he may well have already been a fire emblem fan and only just made his way to shadow dragon and it's sequel. Good day sir. :)

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    5. but that's not the point my good sir.
      the point is,he's playing shadow dragon,while there is 10 more fire emblems,that he could or could not have played,that are better then SD
      even if he had played the games already,he could just replay the better ones
      ergo YOU deserve a good day sir!

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    7. FE13 got me HYPED so I was replaying my GBA´s FEs when I noticed that I haven´t played FE11 yet and around that time I stumbled upon this proyect. So I thought that this would be a good chance to play it since FE12 is almost translated.

      Have a nice day gentlemen and we happy about the upcoming release.

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    8. we just kidding blue,it's cool

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    9. This is the sequel to Shadow Dragon. So, while other FE are better, it's good to play Shadow Dragon while waiting for it.

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    10. Yes.

      Even though Shadow Dragon is one of the weakest entries of the series, and New Mystery is one of the best.

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  58. AAAAHHH!! Been watching this ever since you announced you'd be translating this... >-< soooo much hyyype, going to explode

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  59. Aveyn went all the way to GBAtemp to ask for help <3

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  60. Touch to start? I KEEP TOUCHING AND NOTHING IS HAPPENING.

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  61. It's beeeeeen four daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaays!!
    Hurrrrrrrrrrryyyyy!!!!!

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    1. Based on Aveyn Knight's past posts, it might be friday or so before anything more happens. Of course, that could always change. Just be patient. It'll be worth the wait, ya know? :)

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    2. I know haha. It's just that it's so close now and I need this to fill the void until FE Awakening.
      :)

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    3. Couldn't agree more! :D I wonder when awakening's coming out anyway...hmm...

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    4. Well I've been following the Awakening board on Gamefaqs for ages now and its apparently out in Europe/Australia/America in March-June 2013, so only about 4-5 months to wait!

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  62. Thank you guys for translating this, the wait will be well worth it. Hope not too many problems show up.

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  63. Sorry I can't be more specific, but I can say this wait between posts will probably be slightly longer than usual.

    If you want to guess how long the beta test will take, imagine how long it'd take you to play the game, then at least double that time for the minimum time needed to scour for bugs/glitches.

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    1. cheat codes should halve the playtime, but its still a long time to play through the whole game

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    2. it's not even november guys,chill,go play some other games,this will probly take 7~10 days or so

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    3. It usually takes me a month or so to play through a Fire Emblem game, but I usually play at a leisurely pace :) So just be patient, it will come!

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    4. Take your time! We've waited this long, we can handle a little while longer <3

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    5. Soooooo about 2 weeks probably, that's fine. I've waited this long lol

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  64. It's projects like these (Tales of Innocence, Mother 3, Fire Emblem: Fūin no Tsurugi) that inspired me to declare my major as Japanese.

    Also, I'm donating the full cost of a Nintendo DS game before downloading the patch, so I can give my money to the people who deserved to be paid for this game's English translation; a kind of "pay as much as you want, 'humble bundle'" kind of deal.

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    1. Be warned that it takes a couple years until you start reaping the fruits of your studies!

      We don't even know what to do with the money we've already gotten, since they're more than enough to pay website costs, haha. So, you should support Falcom/XSEED instead and buy Ys Origin/Felghana on Steam!

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    2. ys,xcom,ftl,dust force and mark of the samurai
      buy all of them plz

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  65. Been following this project ever since its inception. would like to make my first post thanking you guys for all the hard work you've put into this.

    Thanks!

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  66. I am so incredibly excited for this patch! Thanks to you magnificent people for giving us more and more stuff to feed our addictions with! :D

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  67. I am really sad right now. I mean, I want to help out really badly, but I have no skills whatsoever in ASM-hacking.

    It makes me wanna punch a baby.

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  68. I'm happy to see this round up to its end-- I just hope it's released before I'm sent off for Basic Training.

    Good job everyone, if only I was able to stick with it until the end. Best wishes!

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  69. You guys cmon the awakening would be out by the time their done!

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    1. False, turd-mongrel. Wait patiently. It's coming soon. Probably November, in fact, while Awakening won't come until the middle of next year.

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    2. ^ Why don't you fuck up? He's not unappreciative,
      clearly from his profile name he's impatient as am i, it's been almost a week since this post and i've been waiting since the beginning of this project show some understanding, we're not mad that it's not out yet we're just anxious to start playing.

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    3. I say you all calm down and find a nice hobby for the next few weeks XP

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    4. I'll take you up on that suggestion blazer,
      as it's always a pleasure talking to the wonderful founder
      of this illustrious group ;) <3

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    5. To "fuck up" is to make a large mistake. I doubt you want me to make a mistake now. Rather, aren't you accusing me of having already made one? I believe you mean "shut the fuck up." If you're going to swear at me, at least do it properly. XD
      But in all seriousness, perhaps "turd-mongrel" was unnecessary, but it's not exactly a grave insult. And the simple fact is that he said Awakening will come out before this patch, which is obviously false. So I pointed it out.
      Yes, he was more than likely exaggerating. But really, when it's so close, I think a little patience isn't much to ask. I've been waiting just as long as any of you, but you don't see me begging for an instant release. They're almost done. Can't you wait another few weeks while they make sure the patch, you know, works?
      As for "he's not unappreciative," I disagree. His statement expresses nothing but impatience, as proven by the fact that he went out of his way to make an account with the name "Impatient." Gratitude is not present, nor is appreciation. His statement is simply a gross exaggeration of the minimal time remaining until release. It amounts to "gimme gimme gimme," not appreciation.
      So yeah, I feel justified calling him out. And I don't intend to "fuck up" or "shut the fuck up." So there.

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    6. Why do you care? I mean, the team should be more irritated but you don't see them calling him out. So why do you get annoyed? Not to be mean or anything, I'm just wondering :/ I'm a different anon by the way

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    7. Hm... that's a good question. I suppose it boils down to this: I like the staff because they're doing something nice which I can benefit from, and they're nice. In the past, Blazer made some very frustrated-sounding comments about or in response to posts like these, and I got the impression he was getting tired of so much "gimme gimme" when the team was working exclusively out of the goodness of their hearts. Then he quit. And even now, people can't be bothered to read posts about the release date or wait just a little while longer for the patch. Instead they post rude, unappreciative comments demanding an immediate release when it's not even completely done yet. When I think about how I would respond to such a thing in the team's shoes, it would probably be "rage quit." Luckily, they're bigger people than me. Still, I feel the need to chew out people like "Impatient" becaues I like the team and would hate this kind of thing myself.

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  70. Thank you all for your amazing work~
    I am really grateful but unfortunately I can't do anything to thank you, so I'll just remind you of the fact that there are lots of people that you made happy with your efforts :3
    I think this glorious moment is appropriate to say something I've been holding back since I discovered this project:
    ....
    TheEnd, I love your profile picture! >_<
    ....
    ....
    ...Oh god, now I've said it.

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  71. Thanks for doing this folks. Haven't really gotten to comment on a translation in progress since DeJap's old Star Ocean (I think?) one waaay back when, but it's great to see translations of good games still happening. Awesome that y'all are finally at the testing phase, hope no game-killer bugs come out and can't wait to see the finished patch whenever it's ready!

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  72. Thanks to all who worked on this! Ive been a diehard FE fan since i first got radiant dawn 4-5 years ago - i own or have owned 7,8,10,11; as well as played 9 and a translation for 6. I was really unhappy when i finally realized they werent going to release 12 here - thanks so much for making sure we dont miss it! Good luck with the beta, and everything else in your busy lifes!!

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  73. YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    That is all.

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